Monthly Archives: November 2017

起诉指尖猴的律师又发飙了

还记得律所Epstein Drangel LLP么?对!就是10月份起诉指尖猴玩具和true touch宠物手套那家,前两次数百名卖家被告,11月份他们又来了!

这次他们起诉的品牌叫Off-White,据说是一个潮牌,国内吴亦凡等都穿上了(咱还停留在真维斯时代,悔恨!):

Off-White有一个设计,叫Off-White Diagonal Design (对角线设计)在美国商标局申请了商标,受理号是5150712,这个设计类似斑马线,阿迪达斯是3条杠,Off-White索性N条:

解读下,这个商标是一个设计,包含了15条平行线,组成一个正方形,注册的大类是018(包包类)和025(衣服类),公司是Off-White LLC,地址美国纽约。

这次Epstein Drangel LLP发起的诉讼参数如下:

案件号:17CV8872
受理法院:U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York 美国纽约南区法院
原告品牌:Off-White
原告律所:Epstein Drangel LLP
案件号:Court case number: Off-White LLC v Warm House et al; Case No. 17CV8872GBD
起诉时间:2017/11/13
卷宗网址:https://www.jianguoyun.com/p/DfEDG34Q4YjABhi7pzo
Off-White官网:https://www.off---white.com
被告卖家列表:
1. ^__^Warm House^__^ Store
https://aliexpress.com/store/2805177
2. Apparel_jsg
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20547535
3. Bajin Webbing Expert online Store
https://bajin.aliexpress.com/store/617199
4. Bapesup
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20678487
5. Beimu
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20059157
6. Bjzhdmy
https://www.dhgate.com/store/19808504
7. Blueberry12 a/k/a Yabsera
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20325724
8. Boost550
https://www.dhgate.com/store/2023505
9. Chen6
https://www.dhgate.com/store/19906382
10. Cinda01
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20322647
11.Qiu Shi Co.,Ltd. /d/b/a Cooolman
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20647090
12.Suprem
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20051572
13. Delire
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20743075
14. Qingdao Black Pearl International Trade Company
d/b/a Dianna 110923
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20137657
15. DKN Store
https;//dkn-shop.aliexpress.com/store/3111016
16. Dongguan City HotSell Garment Co.,Ltd
https://hl1688.en.alibaba.com
17. Dongguan City Hui Lin Apparel Co.,Ltd
https://dgmaohuilin.en.alibaba.com
18.Dongguan City Humen Hongsha Garment Factory
https://hongsha.en.alibaba.com
19. Dongguan Kafany Apparel Co.,Ltd
https://kafanni.en.alibaba.com
20. Dongguan Manxun Clothing Corporation Ltd
https://manxundg.en.alibaba.com
21. Dongguan Tomorrow Fashion Co.,Ltd
https://welovetomorrow.en.alibaba.com
22. Dongguan Xinyu Apparel Co.,Ltd
https://xinyuapparel.en.alibaba.com
23. Dqcothes
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20378465
24. Mammoth a/k/a Eastpak
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20541442
25. ESLITE HYUN 007 Store
https://eslitehyun07.aliexpress.com/store/1143048
26. Fancy199510
https://www.dhgate.com/store/1990664
27. Fashioncasual
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20730252
28. Shop2836075 Store f/k/a FLOERSA Official Store
https://aliexpress.com/store/2836075
29. GuangZhoutradecompany
d/b/a Footballshirt
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20035248
30. Qiu Shi Co.,Ltd.
d/b/a Fullscore
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20717308
31. Gangchen168
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20522430
32. Goodluckok2018
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20064051
33. Guangzhou Seabook Gifts & Stationery Ltd
https://seabag.en.alibaba.com
34. Hdquping
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20287210
35. HEWEI E68 Store
https://aliexpress.com/store/2626032
36. Hlq1025
https://www.dhgate.com/store/hlq1025
37. Hognyeni
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20063030
38. HOS666 Store
https://hos666.aliexpress.com/store/3105013
39. Hstbag
https://www.dhgate.com/store/16947871
40. Hu Xiao Zhe a/k/a Hu2861364198
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20232552
41. Huihui111
https://www.dhgate.com/store/19353551
42. Jane0509
https://www.dhgate.com/store/19677112
43. Jessie_xing
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20056479
44. Jiuyang168
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20556695
45. Jutie
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20063375
46. Fashion hip hop clothing Trading Co.,Ltd
d/b/a lantianbaiyun1979wen
https://www.dhgate.com/store/19810146
47. Leonsun5238
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20287188
48. Tinlon International Trade
d/b/a Lgq369396198
https://www.dhgate.com/store/14427267
49. Limerence77
https://www.dhgate.com/store/207-3817
50. Lizhun Trading Co.,Ltd
https://lizhun.aliexpress.com/store/1472353
51. Lyne_Store
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20505181
52. Maxcan Store
https://aliexpress.com/store/2172136
53. Megagoods Online Trade Company
d/b/a Megagoods
https://www.dhgate.com/store/19791583
54. MIKCY MOUSE ACCESSORY HOUSE Store
https://aliexpress.com/store/1241480
55. Nanching Guanqiu Clothing Co,.Ltd
https://jxgq.en.alibaba.com
56. Nanchang Hollywin Clothing Co.,Ltd
https://nchaoying.en.alibaba.com
57. Nanchang Kingshine Garment Ltd
https://kingshinesports.en.alibaba.com
58. Nanjing KuaiYue Commercial Co.,Ltd
https://njkuaiyue.en.alibaba.com
59. Oldriver
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20625637
60. Paradise12
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20330189
61. RTATD
https://rtatd.aliexpress.com/store/1513395
62. Sellwell10086
https://www.dhgate.com/store/20732146
63. Fashion item and party item wholesale
https://www.dhgate.com/store/14770774
64. Shanghai You Hao Industrial Co.,Ltd
https://chinesewebbing.en.alibaba.com
65. Shenzhen Junho Headwear & Apparel Co.,Ltd
https://junhowear.en.alibaba.com
66. Yiwu Muhe Houseware Co.,Ltd
https://cnmuhe.en.alibaba.com
67. Yiwu Newbie Household Articles Co.,Ltd
https://newbie1688.en.alibaba.com
68. Yiwu Omore Jewelry Co.,Ltd
https://ywoumao.en.alibaba.com
69. Yiwu Oxford Fashion Accessories Co.,Ltd
httsp://oxfordfashion.en.alibaba.com
70. Yiwu Qianxiang Imp&Exp Co.,Ltd
https://yiwuqianxiang.en.alibaba.com
71. Yiwu Satu Lifestyle Co.,Ltd
https://shartu.en.alibaba.com
72. Yongkang Qida Commerce & Trade Co.,Ltd
https://ykqida.en.alibaba.com
73. Yuyao Kaijia Electric Appliance Factory 
https://kidq.en.alibaba.com
74. Yuyao Nuoyuan Electronic Co.,Ltd
https://yynydz.en.alibaba.com
75. Zhengzhou All For U Trading Co.,Ltd
https://allforu.en.alibaba.com

这次被告的卖家总共有75个,其中速卖通11家、阿里巴巴国际站24家、敦煌网40家,这个律所前几个案子也只搞中国的平台,ebay/amazon不搞!君不见在ebay上搜off white,大把中国卖家卖的欢!

同样这次律师把钓鱼取证外包给了另外一个叫NAL的公司,取证的对象有几种:

  • 标题直接按Off-White/Off White的产品
  • 标题不包含Off-White/Off White,但是产品含斑马线设计或者其他Off-White设计

钓鱼取证过程除了截图产品外,还会和卖家聊:

  • 是否发货到美国纽约?发的次数不少吧,卖家一般傻乎乎地说恩恩亲,是的,我们全世界都发的,纽约发了好多次的,亲放心买吧。
  • 支付方式?原来重点是钓paypal账号,现在支付宝、p卡也开始钓了。

除了斑马线设计,大家可以搜索Off-White看看他的其他设计,例如:

通过trademarkia可以查到Off-White LLC目前注册的所有商标:https://www.trademarkia.com/company-offwhite-llc-3997777-page-2-2

结论:

1)做衣服、包包时尚类的卖家赶紧排查下,有斑马条纹的,或者4个箭头的产品,就有侵权风险。

2)美国律所起诉效率越来越高了,加速了中国卖家的洗牌,第一波洗的是主要依靠侵权产品维持生存的卖家;第二波洗的是没有品牌风险意识的卖家。

3)多看多了解,避免自己成为第一波中招的。

工具帖- 如何回复GBC问题

在你把信息发送给律师后,会收到律师的邮件,让你回答问题,你需要这样处理:

1)打开如下页面看回复问题章节:

http://www.sellerdefense.com/index.php/GBC%E5%92%8C%E8%A7%A3%E6%B5%81%E7%A8%8B

2)以下是一个例子:

1  The name of the individual and/or company that owns and operates the Internet Store, and the address of that individual and/or company,  ebay id
Qiu xxx
Baoanqu Dalangjiedao Dalangshequ Dalangbeilu Xinwei Disangongyequ Gdong 3-4ceng
Shenzhen Guangdong 518000
China   1803xxx

2   A complete accounting of sales, including corroborating documentation supporting your representation of the number of units sold and the total revenue generated,
A sunglass, We sold about $2.

3  Supplier information, and
https://detail.1688.com/offer/528668068158.html?spm=b26110380.sw1688.mof001.371.ka8nag
Linhaishi Zhejiang Yanjingcheng Shulun Yanjingdian
Zhejiang Linhaishi Duqiaozhen China
Li nini  1880xxx

4   Documents evidencing clearance procedures implemented by your client prior to listing products for sale, including procedures for verifying that products are authorized.
I was selling unbranded product, and depend on Alibaba, since Alibaba doesn’t allow to sell fake product, I know selling fake is illegal and tried to avoid.

3)在收到的邮件上回复所有人(或者叫回复全部),然后把内容拷贝过来,不要有样式,也不要写什么称呼,直接粘贴上面的内容。